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Jottings Number 68, Reply C, by Hudi Cantrell Podolsky and Bill Harris

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 16:36:20 -0800



All of the comments on this jot, along with the jot itself have been interesting. It got me thinking about why we are all so intrigued by failure. For one thing, it's clear to me that failure is where I learn. When I'm only doing things I can already do successfully, I'm not in a position to learn. So there is this personal experiance, that every infant has, of the value and fascination of failure. And then opposed to it, there is the common institutional attitude towards failure. It's bad. Prevent it. Hide it. Etc. Watch the kindergarteners. They are still, many of them, cheerful and excited about their failures in September. But by the end of the year, the great majority of them have become timid, afraid to fail, ashamed of failure. Perhaps this is our society's way of regulating the pace of change. If we had schools that nurtured innovation and risk taking by supporting failure, perhaps we'd chave a society that created more innovation than we could digest. Maybe our institutions are a needed counterbalance for homo sapien's incredible inventiveness. Perhaps at some level we know that if we don't create social taboos about failures and institutions that support those taboos, we'd innovate ourselves to death as a species. Or perhaps we'd innovate ourselves into some astounding,unimaginablely interesting future... Hudi

     

     As usual, you've put out some very thought-provoking material.  I 
     especially resonate with Phillip Capper's response.  However, I (with 
     my analytic hat on today) have another direction for these few 
     comments.

     >Gladwell also discusses the phenomenon of "risk homeostasis." >He 
     refers to work done by Canadian psychologist Gerald Wilde who >says 
     that human beings seem to compensate for lower risks in one >area by 
     taking larger risks in others.  Gladwell quotes studies >that show 
     that equipping cars with better braking systems >actually increased 
     accidents because the drivers went faster and >tailgated more.  
     Likewise, more pedestrians are hit in >crosswalks than in unmarked 
     areas because the pedestrian tend to >be less careful in crosswalks.

     >And, of course, there is one factor that Gladwell doesn't >mention, 
     the issue of unintended consequences.  The classic case >here is that 
     of the air bag.  There is risk homeostasis effects >because some 
     people don't wear their seatbelts in air bag >equipped cars.  And, 
     there are unintended consequences when the >deployment-speed of the 
     air bags saves the lives of normal-sized >people but injures small 
     people and kills babies.  We solve one >problem and cause others.  Not 
     nice.

     I'd like to know more about these studies before I drew too many 
     conclusions from them.  For example, I could also envision more 
     pedestrians being hit in crosswalks because more pedestrians actually 
     use crosswalks than unmarked areas (this certainly seems dependent 
     upon the local culture).  So, I'd be curious as to rates of accidents 
     instead of counts of accidents, and then I'd be curious as to how the 
     causality was inferred.   

     As for air bags, I just saw a statement from a certain car 
     manufacturer claiming that one of the problems with air bags was that 
     the US government required manufacturers to make them able to restrain 
     unbelted passengers. That increased the required charge and 
     contributed to the problems with smaller passengers.  If that be true, 
     then perhaps people (in general) haven't increased their risks by not 
     wearing belts due to the presence of an air bag; indeed, I thought I 
     had seen statistics which indicated increased use of seat belts 
     (perhaps due to increased legal obligation to do so).  

     Even if the circumstances are as conjectured, perhaps the people 
     haven't increased their overall risks but 'merely' offset some of the 
     gains.  That certainly _seems_ reasonable.

     I'm probably especially picky today, because I was listening to a 
     piece on NPR about the Dupont murder case this morning. Apparently 
     Dupont's defense will be based on an insanity plea. The commentator 
     noted that, should this succeed, it would likely fuel the argument 
     that the insanity plea is a rich person's
     defense and that it is freeing hordes of criminals, when, in fact, it 
     is used in 0.25% of US criminal cases (as I recall) with about a 33% 
     success factor, and the overwhelming majority of such defenses are 
     attempted by, as I recall, people who get public defenders, not rich 
     people.

     This doesn't necessarily change the implications of your posting.  
     Things are getting more complex.  We are, in general, seemingly less 
     able to understand or control all of the ramifications of our designs 
     (even though we've gotten better at them).  Our immediate reaction 
     after catastrophes may not be the appropriate one.  I just want to 
     make sure we spend suitable attention to analyzing the situation 
     rather than going with what "seems obvious".  

     On a related note, at a conference on computers in London back in 1972 
     or 1973, I was speaking with a person from the British National 
     Physical Laboratory (~ the US NIST) regarding AI and "intelligent" 
     applications of computing.  I conjectured that a key difference 
     between human and automated work was that we were willing to let 
     humans fail at tasks, but we expected computerized solutions to be 
     correct always.  He replied that he fully expected people to begin 
     allowing computers the same freedom to fail at tasks (implying, among 
     other things, that we would need and have the same defensive 
     mechanisms in place that we do --- or perhaps should --- for people).

     Regards,

     Bill 


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